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Open-HCI Announced

Submitted by stro on Sun, 2003-02-02 15:14. Usability

Aaron J. Seigo of the KDE project announces:

Seth Nickell (GNOME Usability Project), Havoc Pennington (Free Desktop,
GNOME), and JP Schnapper-Casteras (Free Desktop Accessibility Working Group)
and myself have been discussing the possibility of co-locating the KDE and
GNOME Human Interface Guides (HIGs).
The plan as discussed thus far is to have the two documents co-inhabit one XML
document. Within this document, each HIG will have its own sections as
appropriate and will remain available for separate viewing. The goal is to
have one URL (on www.FreeDesktop.org) and one document for developers to go
to for KDE and GNOME Human Interface Guidelines. We hope this site can
eventually house guidelines for multiple desktops and graphical toolkits.

The easier we can make it for developers to discover and follow such
guidelines the better it will be for Open Source desktops in general. Since
KDE apps are often run on GNOME and vice versa, developers should be able to
easily reference the guidelines for all the desktops they expect their app to
be run on.

Having a shared document will also allow us to start looking at commonalities
between the documents and perhaps create common chapters or sections on basic
guidelines and lessons that are desktop and toolkit-independent (e.g.,
accessibility and internationalization tips, general usability principles).

It will take some work to merge the documents, create a web site, and raise
awareness about the site for developers and people working on other non-KDE
non-GNOME HIGs. If you wish to join us in these efforts, please subscribe to
the open-hci@freedesktop.org email list via the web interface at:

https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/open-hci/

Best wishes to everyone!

- --
Aaron J. Seigo

Original Announcements
KDE Usability Lists
GNOME Usability Lists

Re: OK/Cancel Yes/No and so on in dialogs.

Submitted by Anonymous George on Mon, 2003-02-03 11:02.

I agree. I happen to think that this is just some people being difficult.

The button ordering took me about 2 minutes to get used to, and now other desktop system annoy me a bit, since they have wrong button ordering.

I'm not willing to accept that there "is a way" and you just have to follow that way for the rest of eternity, just because some stubborn people refuse to change their habits, and I would be very saddened if the developers caved in for pressure such as this, just because some people are really loud and ***** about this any chance they get. These people are impossible to satisify anyway, and I think they should just be referred to some other project or be asked kindly to fork GNOME if they really hate this so much.

In addition, GNOMEs button configuration is much, much nicer, since it uses "verbs" instead of just "Cancel" or "Ok".

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