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AbiWord Weekly News #150

Submitted by stro on Sun, 2003-06-29 23:48. AbiWord

The remainders of GUADEC, the death of the hash downloader, a new preferences mock-up, 2.0 beta, anti-abi advertising, Mac OS X and that has nothing to do with the more interesting stories, like Linux going to Congo schools and Microsoft using DRM to lockout other office competitors, all of this and screenshots are waiting within.
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Re: AbiWord Weekly News #150

Submitted by doml on Mon, 2003-06-30 08:15.

Well, I kind-of feel bad replying to this, but I guess I just have to.

There's quite a bit of difference between forcing a Gnome dependency, and allowing us to have one. AbiWord is a gnome-integrated program. We use Gnome help browsers, bonobo, printing architecture, stock icons, VFS, ... when --enable-gnome is passed to configure. In the non-gnome build, well, we have our own printing layer (which isn't such a bad thing - Gnome print leaves much to be desired anyway). Not everything is re-implemented. When things are re-implemented for GTK+, they aren't available in our Gnome build. AbiWord is a 3MB application on ia32 linux. The gnome build is marginally larger than the gtk+ one. I'm sorry for wasting your precious resources.

I've responded below to the "Lachowiczian point of view" quote. If you actually clicked through the link to the mailing list archive, you'd see my reasoning, explanation, and my lamenting why it has to be this way, rather than a comical editorial representation of my actual comments.

Many of AbiWord's users are Win32 users - I'd say at least half. And if you don't believe me, you can look at the download statistics page on sf.net and see them for yourself. It's likely that once our MacOS X port is complete (and it's getting close to releasable), we'll have a large number of MacOS X users as well, simply because they don't want to pay for Word, OO is a bloated X11-requiring app at the moment, and products like Nisus and Mariner generally don't hold a candle to what Abi can do, besides costing $50.

And finally, "HIGrrrification" is an inside joke. No one objects to the Gtk/Gnome port of AbiWord following the HIG, but rather how we achieved such compliance. And disagreement, intelligent debate, and other discussion are not only welcomed, they are vital to the success of any project.

Bah,

Dom

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